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Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:50 pm**

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/possible ... ug-of-war/

Not good news.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:16 pm**

Bloody hell

If we go with what England want and rest him until the AIs, he's with England for them, then surgery, then right back in for the 6N then we wouldn't see him until round 11

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:30 pm**

This is where the club/ country situation is ridiculous.

Does Ben have a say in any of this?

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2025 12:58 am**

RinTin wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:30 pm
This is where the club/ country situation is ridiculous.

Does Ben have a say in any of this?

Erm.....given that it's his body, I would suggest that the decision is his.

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2025 2:21 am**

Alternatively, given that he has a contract with RFU, maybe they own his body.

Seriously, though, I would expect that Ben has at least some say in how this proceeds. I am sure that he will have decided that he would rather go to Argentina than have the surgery then and be ready for the new season.

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2025 8:39 am**

poyntonshark wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 08, 2025 2:21 am
Alternatively, given that he has a contract with RFU, maybe they own his body.

Seriously, though, I would expect that Ben has at least some say in how this proceeds. I am sure that he will have decided that he would rather go to Argentina than have the surgery then and be ready for the new season.

He was well overdue some increased England recognition so must have been desperate to go on that tour.

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2025 8:44 am**

ledzepsfr wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 08, 2025 12:58 am

RinTin wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:30 pm
This is where the club/ country situation is ridiculous.

Does Ben have a say in any of this?
Erm.....given that it's his body, I would suggest that the decision is his.

The article makes no reference to a players decision, only to what RFU want and Sale want.

If RFU medics say he can play, is he technically in breach of his contract with them by refusing to and opting for surgery? That's what I am referencing.

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:14 pm**

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... w1gvkyedvo

Axe comments don't help much in Beeb article. Although a mention that Ben might have a say.
Really should not be this difficult to make a decision.

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2025 4:28 pm**

This is a no brainer to just get the surgery right? It's a suture where the muscle meets the bone which is causing CONSTANT irritation. Even says he can't prepare properly.

What good is waiting going to do for anyone? Surgery now, back mid autumn fit and firing.

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2025 5:38 pm**

News on Ben

“ Ben Curry will miss England’s Autumn Nations Series campaign after undergoing surgery to solve a hamstring problem that was threatening his ability to compete for a test place, and will now face a six-week lay-off.”

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/england- ... -brothers/

Posted: **Tue Oct 14, 2025 7:24 pm**

Great news, completely the right call for all involved. Shame for us yes, but hopefully we have DDP and Vermeulen back imminently.

Posted: **Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:00 pm**

Vermeulen at the champions cup launch today, guessing that means he's out this weekend as otherwise he'd be training?

Posted: **Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:36 am**

Didn't Alex rule him out of this week in the presser?

Posted: **Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:35 am**

poyntonshark wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:36 am
Didn't Alex rule him out of this week in the presser?

Yeah, just read that - DDP and JV close but not quite there, RMW back in contention

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